Bill Hewitt delves into the evolution of the relationship between the Liberal and National parties during his career. He talks about the role of the Ginger Group in retaining the principle of innocent until proven guilty.
David Hamill discusses the nature of the relationships between ministers and department staff and describes the mood upon his appointment as Minister for Transport following the successful Labor election win. He describes the appointment of his ministerial staff and the restructuring of the Department of Transport following his appointment as minister. He comments on the gulag.